Saturday, November 05, 2005

Sivakasi: Here comes the Prince

At the 125th day celebrations of Saami, Superstar almost gave his crown to Vikram, who gently turned it down saying: "Oru Suriyan. Oru Chandran. Oru Superstar." (There can only be one sun, one moon and one Superstar.) There is only one throne and the others would have to work hard to win their own chair, he said.

On the same stage, a much younger actor often referred to as Ilaya Thalapathy, smiled on quietly, knowing fully well that the throne was just there: two seats away.

To encourage him further, Superstar Rajnikant had told the crowd that Kavithalaya's next 'Thirumalai' would see Vijay in a new avatar. Trust Superstar's words to come good. And how.

'Thirumalai' indeed was the second-coming of the young actor.

Vijay hasn't looked back ever since.

'Thirumalai,' 'Gilli,' 'Madurae,' 'Tirupaachi,' 'Sachien' and now with 'Sivakasi,' the prince has arrived, to stake his claim to the throne. Vijay's probably even checked Superstar's shoe size and cut his toe-nails.

You know an actor has arrived when even an average film like 'Sachien' that releases along with 'Chandramukhi,' runs (or even if u assume made to run) for 200 days.

You know the DNA when a first-day-first-show generates mass hysteria, when fans turn fanatical and transform a movie theatre into a dance floor.

If you've watched Superstar movies, you know the pattern: a few male chauvinistic "how-a-girl-must-behave" lines, goofy comic interludes that involve kicking the sidekicks, oodles of style sprinkled all over the song and dance, a couple of gravity-defying fight sequences that can give Matrix a complex, colourful costumes, punches and punchlines, all leading up to the inevitable flashback and the revelation of the conflict and the rise of the hero back to the position of power which was once his.

But what drills home the `successor' imprint deep into the subconscious is the clever manipulation of Superstar symbols and cues in the film.

Sample:

--Sivakasi rides into a wedding hall as the `Maama Un Ponna Kudu' song plays during a wedding.

--Sivakasi gets an MGR look-alike followed by a Superstar look-alike to dance to `Pothuvaaga Yenmanasu Thangam' only to join the jig with the Superstar look-alike on stage. You have to see the audience reaction in the halls to believe it. It's a rage.

--The dance with the `Superstar Jodi' Nayantara who plays herself (for the `Kodambakkam area' song) to give the crowd enough reason to come back for yet another show.

--Constant tributes to Superstar dialogues ("Unmaiya sonnen"), punchlines and style statements, but all of them said in his own style.

The challenging, avenging hero is a re-invention of the angry young man of the seventies. While Bollywood has changed, influenced by the winds of globalisation, good old Dravidian people feel the need to worship their village idol. They simply need a hero to worship. They had a MGR. Many years later, they found a Rajnikant. And they were starved for a new one. And here he is, thanks to the very formula that created the matinee idol -- the angry young man.

Director Perarasu seems to have mastered the 'savaal' (challenge) formula re-invented by Dharani.

The formula for the screenplay is simple: Righteous hero of the masses comes in the way of the all-powerful villain, challenges to bring him down to the streets, uses a combination of brains and brawn (the screenplay is reduced to a game of chess in the second half where the hero check-mates villain) peppered with masala, sentiment and fast koothu song in the end.

People in the districts, frustrated by their real life villains (village headman, corrupt politicians, rowdies) still go to the movie-halls for the gratification of their fantasies: Watching a demi-god kick evil butt. They want to see hero keep 'Aapu' for villain (Sorry, translation of 'Aapu' impossible!)

Vikram did that in Dhil, Dhool and Saamy, his biggest hits till date. But wisely, knowing that age was not on his side, he moulded himself into a Kamal Hassan instead of Superstar. Besides, he knew that his strength was acting.

While Vijay has successfully sold himself as the Superstar `successor' to the B and C centres, it will be tougher for him to convince the urban audiences given the crude, crass chauvinistic sensibility employed in his cinema.

Superstar has a charisma which completely makes you forget the sexist slant in his lines. So while they may forgive Superstar, they may not be as kind with Vijay. The prince really has to watch what he says.

A little refinement of the language, doing away with sexist statements and fine-tuning his own set of signature style skills and he should be king.

At 31, the `Ilaya Thalapathy' has time on his side.

Besides, the man once called Shivaji Rao Gaekwad, soon to be known as `Sivaji' — the king, the boss — is still around.

P.S: And for the losers who say Vijay doesn't act like Vikram does, I will only the same thing which I say in support of Superstar Rajni, when they say Kamal acts better: "Superstar doesn't need to act. People watch him anyway."
With an existing fan club base of 20 lakh people paying an average of 75 rupees per ticket, he assures producers minimum returns of Rs. 15 crores. The rights for his next project 'Aadhi' got sold out even before shooting started. And his film-after-next 'Puli' got sold out on the very next day after the pooja. Apart from Superstar, nobody else commands such respect at the box-office. Vijay critics can now go eat worms!

83 Comments:

Blogger Somu said...

Aww that's enough for me to convince my friends to go to Sivakasi tonight.. They have been raving about maja and now they show signs of wanting to watch Sivakasi...

Being an ardent fan of Vijay myself, its a crime that I have never seen any of his movies after Thirumalai in the theatre... So, am just as excited as any of his other fans and hoping I wud be able to get the tickets !!!

I thought Anniyan was Vikram's biggest hit so far ??

5:06 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

anniyan was made at a very high budget, so inspite of huge collections, its not his biggest hit!

5:46 PM  
Blogger vee-jay said...

ennatha solvenungo!!!!! should agree with what you have written than argue anymore!!!

5:51 PM  
Blogger johnny boy said...

Hey sudhish....
Long time man. Yet to watch sivakasi :( Will watch it soon. Hope it's as explosive as the fireworks that 'sivakasi' is famous for.. Prayin its not a 'bussssssssssssss', in tamil terms :D

7:56 PM  
Blogger ada-paavi!!!! said...

the point is that SUPERSTAR HAS UNIVRESAL APPEAL A, B and C, which vijay lacks, important point.
secondly in tamil nadu a xerox copy of superstar has madippu, unfortunately a xerox copy of vijay doesnt have.

vijay has a long road to go before superstardom,itll be hard for him to sell him movies to A audiences, especially his crass style his style, lets not kid outselves by callin vijay the nxt superstar, he has a long way to go.

and til date only vijay fans (i presume ur 1) watch him movies, the others dont, and they cant stand them, tirupacchi was seen only by his fans, wheras a super star has universal appeal even in B and C, which vijay doesnt, therefore he is a superstar clone not the next super star.

vijay at the end of the day is a kevalamae xerox copy of thalai, thalai illai, adunala vaal aadarathu, thalai vanda vaal aadangi poganam

9:26 PM  
Anonymous b a l a j i said...

Vijay can never take the place of superstar. Ten years back when "My dear kutti chathan" was re-released, hordes of superstar fans flocked to theatres only to watch the starting bit where Rajni instructs ppl about the 3d glass. Many would left the theatre after the intro.

Do u think Vijay has such a fan following?

10:05 PM  
Anonymous b a l a j i said...

sorry for the grammatical error in the previous post.

10:09 PM  
Blogger Rim said...

U're very rite. Nuthin like Ilaya Thalapathy movies. Vijay used to act(i still remember movies like kadhalukku mariyadhai), but now he's gone the isthyle way to become the King. And, if u notice carefully, he's doing a great trick - soft movies like 'kushi' and 'sachein' in the midst of masses-movies like 'tirupachi' and 'sivakasi'. He's being clever -and he's succeeding.

Yet, he's humble and SO unlike his movies in person.(U should've seen his eyes when he shook hands with Superstar in Gilli's 200th day function that i covered). It was amazed pair of eyes - the same eyes you get when a small-time cricketer meets his role model Sachin Tendulkar.

10:10 PM  
Blogger Naresh said...

I dunno tamil, so dnt watch tamil films, but i vouch for one fact... Superstars need not act, ppl watch them anyway!

10:36 PM  
Blogger Harish said...

Guess what. Sivakasi was the first Vijay movie I saw in a theatre.

And couldn't believe the way he spoofed his way to stardom. Thirupaachi paarthuttu aparama koovaraen! ippo nothing to say!

11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vijay is a dumb bugger who needs to be taught how to deliver his dialogues. He survives just cause of screen persona and the image he has amidst his fans.

Next Superstar..Vijay?? Suderman must be kidding. Never thought you d be such an crazy fan of Ilayathalapathy. There was,can be and will be just one superstar... and you know who I m referring to.

I bet Vijay cant even come close to the universal adulation that Rajini commands.. man!! looking at movies he has been dishing out offlate - Madure ,thirupachi, Sivakasi etc etc, My judgement looks to be even more sound.

12:23 AM  
Blogger Suderman said...

balaji, vatsan and all vijay haters:
i understand ur irritation. but sorry pasangala, whether u like it or not, he has over 20 lakh fans in the state and like only sex and shah rukh khan sell in Bollywood, down south only superstar and ilaya thalapathy sell... i am not saying this. box office figures are testimony to that. talk to any industry person, trade analyst and he will tell you how wrong you are.
so u will have to learn to live with these facts. sorry thambigala, at ur age even i shot my mouth off thinking i know it all... so i understand.
also when rajnikant emerged as superstars, he faced similar criticism. they called him a poor copy of sivaji. til date, Superstar has not denied that. he still maintains he owes his style to sivaji. vijay is just doing the same thing. whats more vijay dances like nobody else ever has (with the exception of prabu deva and little kamal), says his lines with a casual colloquial cool and uses the superstarisms only for the punchlines.
end of argument boys, ilaya thalapathy rules the box office. those who cant digest it, like i said earlier, eat worms!

12:33 AM  
Blogger J said...

suderman you go and eat cockroaches man :)) cant help it buddy you gave us worms :D

I dont think madhurae and sachein are hits..Both are so yucky that you can puke on screen. Second comes in the worst genre is thirupaachi. I liked gilli and kushi among his films. thanks to his directors. Btw can you prove the numbers you fling at us?? 20 lakh fans?does it have any source, I mean?? BErsides superstar had thaikulam support. Vijay has a long way to even gain that..
Buddy, just because you see a hero in that Mr.who cant act-wears lipstic-looks ugly.. does not mean you are a loser..you dont have to get all defensive here and make us eat worms..we rather eat worms and watch vikram,surya movies than your sivakasi..
(whew..just briefly watched the movie 'once more'(courtesy:sun)and that has this horrible effect on me)
Btw please (I beg) do not compare vikram's movies except anniyan, which i hated (he s a class act)to vijay's movies except gilli..
Suderman is funny :) vijay uttering superstar's dialogues in his 'own style' ..bah..what does that mean??
Suderman you are 'oh god my stomach aches' funny :)
If you cant still agree and get all agitated, please watch "Nenjinile" and my case rests :)

3:54 AM  
Blogger ada-paavi!!!! said...

i am not spkin bout his box office success, the point is that a super star needs universal appeal, which vijay lacks, therefore he isnt in the superstar league yet, that the point, i never said his movies dont run, i said that he isnt a superstar yet, read my comment a bit more carefully. i again maintain that he has got huge market (in B and C) but unless he has segment A appeal, he cannot be considered a superstar (this doesnt seem forthcoming, cause the A segment now cant stand the sight of the guy. superstars appeal also cuts across all ages from 5 to 60, vijay at preesnt lacks that.

sudhish my point is that its too early to call vijay the next sueprstar, lets give him some time, lets not fool ourselves by calling him the next superstar.
fan base isnt an indication, its the non fans who turn out to watch movies who matter. for superstar, fans of all actors turn out, evreyone, even those who dont normally watch his movies turn up for him movies. that is a superstar for u. for vijay, even those who watch tamil movies think twice before going for his movie (i havent seen a vijay movie since ghilli, and plannin on sivaksi cause it has asin, and there r many like me), at the end of the day vijay is a superstar clone (he lacks the style that rajini has, nor can he act like rajini, remember mulum malurum or talapathi) and its kinda hard for the clone to replace the king.

superstardom isnt given out by a bunch of fans, its given out by the entire rasigars of tamil cinema(not just vijays Fans), by the way only vijay fans believe he is nxt superstar, for the rest he is a bad copy, and i am spkin frm proper understanding of the situation.

if u cant understand this simple point u can eat cockroaches and enjoy them!!

7:32 AM  
Blogger ada-paavi!!!! said...

anna vanathuiila kottai kattathengal, apporam neengal yeamanthu poiduvengal,
this trend of vijays movies like sivakasi doing well is short term, maybe 3-5 yrs, then these kind of movies mite not do so well, remember a time when Capis movies like narashima did well?? whathappened after that?? all his movies flopped, same thing can happen to ur superstar. secondly a superstar doesnt stick to one type of roles alone that is a local rowdy which vijay does, only sachin was diff, in that too he was a coll student. our thalai, did diff roles, but his mannerism was the identical, but the roles were diff. ask ur thalai to act in a police karan role? or a padayaappa kinda role lets c if that runs, or even a dharmathin thalaivan kinda role?? lets c him do that and then talk. illati aarasiyal vathi madri neengala oru title kudungo, completely detached frm ground reality

7:43 AM  
Blogger Saravan said...

vatsan,
>>but unless he has segment A appeal, he cannot be considered a superstar (this doesnt seem forthcoming, cause the A segment now cant stand the sight of the guy.

who said vijay does not have a market in A centres ? See his BO collections in chennai area.

>> Capis movies like narashima did well??
really funny. even captian wont agree to that.

>>this trend of vijays movies like sivakasi doing well is short term, maybe 3-5 yrs, then these kind of movies mite not do so well, remember a time when Capis movies like narashima did well?? whathappened after that?? all his movies flopped, same thing can happen to ur superstar.

Infact all vijay's movie from Badri(2001) to Vaseegara(2003) were flops. But see how he made a comeback in Thirumalai.

>> did diff roles, but his mannerism was the identical, but the roles were diff. ask ur thalai to act in a police karan role? or a padayaappa kinda role lets c if that runs, or even a dharmathin thalaivan kinda role??

Give him time man. He will do those kind of roles.

whenever a new superstar comes then ppl will say he is not like the earlier one. when rajini predicted as next superstar, ppl doubted whether he can attract thaykulangal like MGR with his cigarrette spinning styles. now yor saying the same thing to vijay. these talks will change over period of time.

also read the review of sivakasi by a person from A center.
http://www.teakada.com/archives/001484.html

9:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now a days more Black heroes are getting popular , going into drain are the brahmins , Vijaykant, Vijay are our southern heroes now a days . Who Wants the Aliens any way. We need some Black Heroines too, to match up

10:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey man sudhish gr8 review..n yup agre wit u...dwn sout only superstar n ilaya talapathi sel..n btw de janta who hv been talkin abt actin n vijay not bein good rnt rite..coz al aid n dun u wud like de hero 2 b invincbl n win al de fites..not get bashd up:)...hey n do keep up ur good wrk:)

11:02 AM  
Anonymous china said...

I dont see anyone else in Tamil other than Vijay, Surya and Vikram...and with recent collections...it is evident that Vijay is best of the three...Vikram good in acting...Surya is better...but both lack something that Vijay has...this kind of talk is enough to make him next superstar...Ajith has made too many crap movies to give a comeback. Surya and Vikram have acted in artish movies...so they are more likely to become Kamal products...Collection King is certainly Vijay...Vikrams anniyan and suryas ghajini have been dubbed in telugu...none of Vijay's films have ( since some are remake of telugu) but still his movies collect more than what surya's or vikrams movie does in TN alone. His dance is appreciated by my telugu friends...his humbleness is appriciated by the mallus I know...he has proved finally like Rajini that looks are not all that matter, acting skills improve with age, his dance can't be matched, his comedy and charm is appreciated...with dance as an added advantage, the under dog has finally emerged...If the next superstar was elected with a voting system in TN, I am sure it will be Vijay....Vijay certainly has done some mistakes...but other heros (and wannabe superstars - like thalai...seriously thalai had turned into thalai vali from Dheena itself) have had flops...
Vijay's hit movie spree is still on starting from Thirumalai...Vikram has had a flop after pithamagan...arul..maja won't do well from what I hear. Surya has given too less to compare to after pithamagan...like mayaavi and ghajinis second half...statistically Vijay stands in the lead as the next superstar...unless he creates a blunder..

2:20 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

j: unfortunately ur taste is not the yardstick for who can become superstar. and i cant eat cockroaches cuz of wat u think. at least its established that me and 20 lakh other people think he has a future. show biz is abt money. whoever brings in that money is superstar. rite now no one except superstar and ilaya thalapathy bring in money. so live with it dude.

vatsan: which part of the statement: "end of argument" u do not understand?
rajnikant at vijay's age was just starting out too. in fact he didnt even have a fan base that vijay has. so we cannot compare it that way. the only we can compare is by the mass hysteria a hero generates in the halls. this guy has done it for six films... even his sickest pukiest films generate euphoria i the halls. i rest my case and like i said, learn to live with it.
cheers!

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

suderman are u gay? u certainly seem like it.

4:32 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

anon:
sorry to disappoint u but im straight. and if u want someone to take ur ass, this aint the place... so move it outta here mate!

5:40 PM  
Anonymous Murugan said...

Thalaivar Rajini is the king! As much as u cannot deny that, Vijay is the prince. No matter who sees his movies or not, he has the best Box Office collections after Thalaivar. The producers, distributors and the fans attest to that.

To remind u all vijay haters, who talk shit, he is the prince. The king in making. He will not be untill Rajini is still around. No doubt about it. However, he has masterred the formula. Kingship in south india has to start with the B and C calss audience and the children. Its always like that. MGR and Rajini had the same base in the begginning. That is where the money and fame is at. Not in the city folks who first of all think they are too good to speak tamil. Meanwhile Vijay makes 3 crores a movie whiout u haters!! lets check ur bank balance :)

Getting the A class audience i not that difficult either. Vijay is only 31. He has many years to go. Rajini entered the movies only at 28. By the movie aadi and puli, i will guarentee that he will make it to A class audience. 5 years from now, He will be King.

Hate all u want, but who gives a shit! He sits on the throne and guess what, your ticket makes no difference. So keep ur money and stay away from the prince!!! He does not need u.

5:58 PM  
Blogger Incognito said...

Dearest Suderman.
One request. Please dont attach the word 'Superstar' to anybody else. Like even MGR had a title exclusive for himself, it did not get passed on to our thalaivar. I am not disputing here nor am I arguing about who is going to be the next big actor/who is going to get box-office collections. Maybe he will get more fan-following and all. But the title 'Superstar' belongs to One man. One man who conquers us all !
Thalaivaaa!

7:30 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

incognito:
at the 125th day of Saamy, superstar himself said that anyone who commands such respect at the box office is a superstar. besides, we're only talking abt the position in the industry: that of the king.
if superstar is king, ilayathalapathy is prince. Im superstar's biggest fan. i think if sivakasi was made with superstar it wudve run for 500 days! cuz it is vijay it wil run only 200! :)

8:28 PM  
Blogger Rim said...

Hey suderman...Just watched Sivakasi...as u said da, u gotto see the audience's reaction when the MGR and rajni lookalikes stand near Vijay; it's a rage, even in a little place like Kottayam. And hey, they even have a Vijay fans association over here. Awesome!

8:44 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

muruga:
i beg to differ with u on the grounds that he has only B and C. Yes, he is most powerful in B and C. And has made inroads into A as well. You, me, trade analysts and critics who have given the film rave reviews (sify, suntv, teakada as our friend mentioned here) are all part of A. we are not affiliated to his fan clubs either yet we watch his films. besides, there's no point arguing wiht people who stopped watching vijay films after nenjinilae. even i used to hate him til thirumalai happened.
all 21 year old boys maaplai, obviously they think they know more than box office experts... when they watch a few more movies or talk to a few people in the industry they ll understand wat we're talking abt.
when i was 21 i used to be exactly like them.
unless they go to the movie hall like we went to rohini complex and check out audience euphoria how will they know wat we are talking abt?
best thing is to let them be. they will understand. or if they dont, who cares anyway?
even after his 28 years in the industry, there are stil people who make fun of superstar... vijay is hardly 12 years old in the industry and has given over 100 crores as business to the industry if u include his hits in the last 3 years alone, something even superstar himself cudnt do till a later phase in his career.
if they are comparing vijay to vijayakant it is pretty obvious taht you are arguing with people who do not have the slightest clue abt the trade.
vijayakanth at no point in his career had fans dancing in the halls... not even when he was at his vanatheypola 350days creating peak!
vatsan, balaji, jeeboomba are all good people. they reserve the right to think vijay isnt the successor. we reserve the right to believe he does. time wil tell who is right. so til then there is absolutely no point carrying on this argument.
so, im putting this to rest.
as far as my blog goes, Ilaya thalapathy rules, he is the man who will be king.
i have already spoken enuff abt my reasons, stats, records to explain why, so have some others in the comments. mgr, sivaji, rajni, kamal and the next name in that order is surely vijay.
end of discussion.

8:48 PM  
Blogger Incognito said...

I differ with you on one thing. I am the biggest fan :)!
Hey guess what, I was thinking abt writing abt thalaivar, for such a long time in my blog. Just finished it.

10:42 PM  
Blogger J said...

"Unfortunately ur taste is not the yardstick for who can become superstar. and i cant eat cockroaches cuz of wat u think."

Ditto
As you mentioned, there is no point in carrying forward this pennyworth argument. We have to wait and watch. you are not bad either :)

12:32 AM  
Blogger Archana Vivekh said...

hey sudu...

though i have not watched the film i feel like most people do...its amazing surprising but after rajni its vijay who succeeds...his throne to poularity. i have never seen some much fanfare and the celebrations tht flow with any movie...having stayed all in north for a major part of my life..i know bachan rules but i have never seen so much glam and fiesta when his films released..its amzing but i have no clue how poeple are so mad abt rajni now vijay...its mind boggling the kind of respect and appreciation these actors get..its great...feel they really have reached out to the masses..and us...
will definitely watch sivakasi...
are u coming along again....

10:16 AM  
Blogger raj said...

Suderman, i guess you are right. much as i dislike vijay and his movies, it is undeniable that he has a fan-following and has been the only actor of this generation who has carried crap movies. Think Ajith - RED, Jana and numerous other crap movies - they flopped and deservedly so. Think Vikram - King, Arul et al wannabesuperstar movies - flopped! and any day Thiruppachi is better than Arul!
Think Surya - no brainer - only movies that ran for him are due to inherent quality of the movie, except perhaps Perazhagan, an average movie that had above-average success. I mean, u remember a movie called Sree- our man played a true-blue wannabe superstar there - if anyone can stand that, well, I'll take Thiruppachi any day :-)
Besides Vikram doesnt have age on his side . My guess is Vijay and Surya will be Rajni and Kamal of the next generation.

That said, Vikram and Surya are the better actors - when one says this you have to consider that Rajni was no mean an actor - at one point he was the equal of Kamal as an actor before Kamal stepped on the accelerator. Vijay can have no such pretensions - he is way behind Surya and Vikram on this,

11:52 AM  
Blogger raj said...

and people, it is not such a bad thing. The way the tamil film industry works, it needs the odd superstar who would keep generating business for the financiers and distributors - someone from the present generation has to take over from Rajni, and it cant be someone who arrives newly now - it is too late for that now. It has got to be one among the current top stars . Among these, I would prefer Vijay to take over the superstar mantle - not Vikram or Surya because they are too precious acting talents to be wasted on the superstar altar. Ajith, tha tharu'thala' is not even in contention.
Who else?
Surely not the little superstar"? Now, imagine, how would that be - (ie) if our beloved simbu started getting a few hits and takes over the superstar mantle :-)

11:57 AM  
Blogger raj said...

ah! Suder, what is your take on Simbu, the 'little suckerstar .err sueprstar'. My take:
*&^%@#@#@#@#@&^%#$@#%@#^@^! ;-)

12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vijai is just a substitute for Rajinikanth, he can never be a superstar, nowadays movies are resembling the politics( i mean the nalla illainaalum ethi vidura attitude ),Sachein was delibrately made to go 200 days in a theatre in Chennai. Padam vasool aagatiyum poster mattum 200 days nu perusaa adichaanga. I gues Ilaya thalapthi doesnt wanna break his chain of Hit movies thru' sachin. But enna panradhu Vijai is the default choice.
raj. please dont compare Surya with Kamal, he has just done a couple of gud movies(Kaka Kaka,Pithamagan)
Perazhagan is just a rework of what Dilip has done in a Malayalam movie.

2:05 PM  
Blogger Bala (Karthik) said...

"With an existing fan club base of 20 lakh people paying an average of 75 rupees per ticket, he assures producers minimum returns of Rs. 15 crores"
I guess not...
20 lakhs??? I'd be surprised....
And an average price of Rs.75 per ticket? Chennai != TN
[For e.g, in Kumbakonam, a FDFS BLACK ticket costs around 30-50 bucks]
There is more to movie dynamics and collections than the 200 DAYS banners....

And the statement "Vijay doesn't need to act. People watch him anyway" can mean a completely different thing too.... It says more about the PEOPLE than the star... I'm just bringing a point of view here :)

2:40 PM  
Anonymous Shankar said...

To end it all ... there is one simple reason why Vijay will be on top for a long time to come:-
In a recent interview he was asked as to why he doestchange his image and go for more performance oriented roles... the guy gave a clear answer that he is not willing to take risks and wud rather stick to standard heroisma,gaana paatu,two glam dolls/per movie ..formula and rake in profit for producers.

This clarity of mind will suffice to garner mass support.

4:18 PM  
Blogger raj said...

anon: comparions are inevitable. Rajni and Kamal are the successors to MGR and Sivaji - this is the take of this generation in hindsight. I am sure that those people who said the same thing as a prediction in 1976 would have been laughed off saying "Dont compare Rajni and Kamal with MGR and Sivaji. They are legends".
Generation Gap, dear friend.

Right now, saying Surya has the potential to be future Kamal or Vijay has the potential to be next Rajni is fair enough - we are talking of potential, not actual performance.

5:23 PM  
Blogger raj said...

bala, whatever it says about the people, it is a valid argument or not? Whoever rakes in moolah is the box office King. Idhula enna confusion? We are not saying he is the super actor, uberactingpundit etc.He generates mass hysteria - whether it is good for the health of Tamil Cinema or not is another question - for example, in the earlier generation, Rajni made mass movies. Kamal made these sort of wnnabe-sueprstar movies upto a point. But very few others jumped the bandwagon. Nowadays, every damn 2 movie old son-of-a-bitc..er-producer-or-actor wants to be the next supe5rstar, and worse, makes movies to that sensibility. In that sense, superstar-wannabe movies are restricting the quality of the Tamil movie scene.

Thats why I wish that Suder's prediction comes true soon - let vijay become rajni and let all other pretenders be obliterated. That way, we will have only one superstar and only 2-3 superstar-movies per year, which in turn would benefit tamil cinemadom.

5:28 PM  
Blogger Bala (Karthik) said...

Shankar,
" ..formula and rake in profit for producers"
That's just an assumption. In how many screens did Sachein cross 50 days? The same goes for Madurae. Thirupachi ran for around 200 days in Kamala theatre only, with the operator being the sole member of the audience for a major part of the 200 day period. If a film is made to run, either the producer or the actor is taking a cut....
Thalabadhi had a good run but still GV didn't make a profit, NOT because the movie was not well received but because of the budget.
That said Vijay sure attracts a grand opening but to extrapolate that to ALL of Vijay's movies being success guarantess for the prodcuers is a little too much. No movie can bring in profits just by virtue of the number of fans. If that's the case, Baba wouldn't be a flop. It's mathematically impossible, unless the movie's shot on a shoe-string budget [impossible for a star's movie].

5:35 PM  
Anonymous Mani said...

Dei arivkaetae loose pasangala,
do u even know how much a "flop" like baba made?? rajinikanth is still laughing.
Even after returning 60 per cent of the money, he made enough profit. baba was a flop only because people did not like it not because people did not see it.
and do not let your ignorance show through stupid statements like this movie was made to run 200 days. if it just had to be made to run they would have stopped it with 100 or 150. and even assuming you make a movie for 200 days, there is a cost to it. if a hero can recover that cost he must be a superstar. What say suder?

6:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea ... Agree with U ... Vijays Movies are tot timepass and lotta fun.. Infact the only diwali Flick I am Looking fwd to ...
What amazes me is how his sense of dressing and the colors... I thght we were done with them after ramarakan era.. But yep Its fun .. and at the end of the day i look for something thats tot time pass and this is That!!!!
-AG

6:40 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

People:
i said end of discussion. which part of that didnt u guys understand?

bala/karthik:
rohini theatre sold counter tickets for 120, udayam, mini udayam, padmam and sangam, devi and devi bala (all twin theatres within the same complex...wat movie apart from chandramukhi has had that kind of an opening???) sold tickets for not less than 120 on the first day... i said an average of Rs.75 which balances ticket prices... and black ticket costing 30 to 50 bucks on FDFS in kumbakonam?? come on, give me another one... like u went to the theatre... dont talk abt things u do not know about...

raj:
you cant become superstar by simply aping him right from the opening credits... he's someone who is a superstar even off screen. simbu is an arrogant impersonator. vijay is far more original and has a pretty decent off screen presence. the way vijay has taken the best out of superstar and added his own touch to it makes him much more watchable any any superstar wannabe including s.j. suryah.

anon:
same thing as mani said, if he can make a movie run for 200 days, he must have some power at the box office. even i didnt like sachien or madurae... but they ran!

mani:
mind ur language thambi, wont take them long to call u names. i dont want any fights here. Im gonna start deleting any more comments on the subject which are offensive. unless u have a blog address u can put against ur name, u should not be calling people names. cuz once u r identified, they at least have scope for a comeback... i dont want my blog to be ur warring grounds. hope u understand. mathapadi ur points are all bang on. baba did make over 100 crores thru minimum guarantee alone from 234 screens. he refunded about 40 crores. not 60. cheers pa.

ag:
his sense of dressing is pretty much same as superstar in the scenes... the song and dance sequences are fantasy... they demand colour... actually vijay at least wears these for fun (its more like his signature spoof, its a franchise and any good franchise has regular features... people wait to see what funny costumes he comes up with... he started that with badri... its purely intentional and for entertainment). Its not meant to be worn as a fashion statement like suriya (in ghajini) who thought it was cool to wear orange tight fitting V neck with chocolate brown tight jeans... or vikram wearing purple veshti with purple purple sattai in maja, getting chaitanya rao to do his costumes for a village character...

actually this argument of will vijay be next superstar is getting rather redundant. so unless u have any new points, pls keep off. im allergic to people arguing on the basis of their half-baked knowledge or absolute lack of it... so dont blame me if i hit the delete button.

7:12 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

archana:
we will surely go. murugan wanted to watch again. wil call.

incognito:
neeyum va ma. wil cal u. and sssssssssoooooooooooooper post on ssuperstar. murugan was very happy.

j:
very sad reasoning.
cuz its not my taste we were arguing about... there are people, stats, records to illustrate fan strength... tis not my opinion alone, its the box office figures talking. and i wud like to believe i know the industry since im covering it for my bread and butter unlike some ignorant folks here. so dont say 'Ditto' and think uve said something smart. cheers!

7:27 PM  
Blogger raj said...

suder, point already taken. I thought you will give a more graphic description of simbu's talents than my meagre "&%#$#$#^%$^%" - adhukku dhaan kettaen - arrogant is too mild a word for him:-)

8:07 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

raj:
public le kaeta varthae pesa vendaamnu thaan! ;)

8:12 PM  
Anonymous china said...

dey suderman...you narada...ippo naryana-narayana nu solriya...nalla sandai mooti vitutu...good technique machaan...you know for sure that there are certain anons who will certainly use ketta varthai...:)...plus delete button vera vechukira...win-win situation thaan unaku...why are anons such fulls that they don't understand this...inspite of u telling...seri could not find u on yagooooo chaat..thts why commenting...

1:45 AM  
Blogger J said...

This post has been removed by a blog administrator.

2:14 AM  
Blogger J said...

Do you have a reliable source from which you claim all this? Now I have a doubt.
Are you talking as a vijay fan or somebody who is a well known critic?
I thought you were blogging as a former..I had a reason to think so because your post was very passionate like a "Parama rasigan". Calling others losers etc..Ditto is more than enuf for him. If you talk like a dispassionate critic, may be I can give you a better reasoning.
methinks that just replying to this post might unnecassarily elevate Vijay.
So End of discussion.

2:38 AM  
Blogger Suderman said...

J:
u make no sense whatsoever. u seem to suggest that its impossible for a film industry reporter to be a fan or a blogger? in fact being a reporter and stil being a fan speaks volumes cuz
a. i have access to box office collections and from the industry first hand, it doesnt get more reliable than this.
b. i know these guys up close and interact with them.
c. im a critic myself and can claim to understand a medium and its genre while studying star iconography and drawing comparisons.
d. i also happen to be a filmmaker. so i understand narratives and deal with actors. i realise how flat imitations cud fall (the examples for poor superstar imitations are many)
e. im also a blogger who is a film critic, filmmaker, industry reporter and a movie buff. so i only think that a combination of all these wud only make my judgement sharper than any industry outsider.
anyways, im glad ur discussion with me on this is finally over. thank u.

3:32 AM  
Anonymous vasanthi said...

I agree that vijay has potential but there is a long way to go because all his movies have become like 6 songs, 6 fights kind of telugu movies. he needs to be careful. As for Rajni-each movie of his had and has a story line which vijays latest movies lack.

10:36 AM  
Blogger Incognito said...

Absolutely. Like I said, first day first showthan. And not in those elite theatres.
You remember the scene when jyothika approaches thalaivar in the garden with a cup of coffee, she addresses him as, 'Saravana..' . One guy screamed saying,'Adi paavi, mariyadha , enna paer vechu koopadra!'
And the part (fight scene) where this guy keeps his leg on thalaivar's chest, the whole theatre was raged. These guys got up and screamed,'NAan varaen thalaiva, avan lam jujipi'. Summa fun
I regretted not taknig festoons when I went to see Chandramukhi cos the guy next to me was throwing what not when thalaivar appeared onscreen. This time I'm packing festoons, jigna, whisle and all kinds of jingcha's! :)
Naan ready , nee readiya?

12:17 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

vasanthi:
pandian, siva, manithan, oor kavalan, ranuvaveeran, adhisaya piravi, adutha vaarisu, padikathavan, velaikaaran, panakaaran... think abt these movies superstar did. if u think they had a story, of course even vijay's films do.
wat do u mean by a story? where there's a plot apart from hero beating up villains? then where is that ("story" as u call it) even in relatively stronger scripts like padayappa, basha or annamalai?
vijay is just continuing the matinee idol formula... Who are matinee idols? a matinee idol is a prototype for the hero of a society in his era. he is the ideal protagonist who emerges out of the collective conscious of the society.
when a society gets disillusioned with powerful rowdies, scheming politicians and a victimised civil society scared of taking them on, it likes to cheer for anyone who does that... be it in reality or on screen.
its the angry young man prototype of the seventies which has been re-invented to suit our time. and to suit a star's charisma, style.
superstar movies echoed the collective conscious of the society of his times. vijay movies echo collective conscious of the society of his times.
Who is the hero?
The hero is always a common man, one from the masses: a mechanic in thirumalai, vegetable vendor in madurae, college dropout in gilli, village bumpkin in tirupaachi and a welder in sivakaasi.
what is he fighting?
a nexus of powerful corrupt politicians and rowdies who come in the way of
a. his love (thirumalai, madurae)
b. his sister's future (tirupaachi)
c. his family (sivakaasi)
What is a common man's life all about?
Earning a livelihood for his family, his daily struggle for money, a need to find a good husband for sister/daughter, to fight for what's theirs (usurped property taken away by scheming relatives) and random injustice meted out to them by a corrupt system of politicans, rowdies and sometimes the police.
How many different stories can u churn out of these? but u have to cuz these are the people who watch movies.
So when you borrow out of their world of the common man and create a superhero who would kick evil butt, you get a matinee idol.
now a matinee idol needs electifying on-screen persona without which he wont click.
that's how a rajnikant was born. that's how a vijay is born.
that's how a vikram was IT during dhil, dhool and saamy.

12:23 PM  
Blogger Bala (Karthik) said...

Suderman,
"and black ticket costing 30 to 50 bucks on FDFS in kumbakonam?? come on, give me another one... like u went to the theatre... dont talk abt things u do not know about..."
SORRY TO RAKE IT UP AGAIN but this needs a reply. First of all, cool it mate! And never assume anything :)
I have friends who've been born and brought up in Kumbakonam and this news is as authentic as it gets. Check out what's the scene in Kanchipuram [Babu theatre etc], Madurai etc. It will be the same, plus or minus a few. And Baba getting sold for 100 cr thro MG????? Certain things are better left unsaid :)

12:37 PM  
Anonymous vasanthi said...

Hi suderman,
What about-Johnny, thillu mullu,moondru mugam, murattu kaalai, engeyo ketta kural, -any match from vijay's movies. The point is you are being defensive about vijay-it can be even called as being partial. I still stand by my words-he has the potential and a few more movies with four stunts and 4 songs-he is out of the race. long way to go-the very fact that there is a universal disagreement through the comments shows that you are in a hurry to call vijay a superstar.No offence meant-I hope you do remember my comments in many of your previous post.

2:20 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

bala:
yes... not all payments are made as MG but for baba the rights were given only on MG cuz it was releasing after a big break... unbelievable but true... thats how prevalent black money is in the industry. but thats another issue altogether.
and if u're saying ur friends from kumbakonam last emailed u saying that the first day first show ticket price in black for sivakasi was between Rs.30 and 50, chances are that they are about Rs.50. counter ticket prices for any superstar, vijay or vikram movie in coimbatore and madurai are over Rs.100 during the first week. Rs.75 is a safe average cost because while cost of black tickets have come down in the cities cuz there are more prints and theatres available unlike districts where the seats/theatres are limited. instead of arguing blindly, why dont u check out a vijay movie in the city or outskirts and see for urself? seeing is believing.

2:30 PM  
Anonymous china said...

Sudhish,
as regards to black ticket in kumbakonam...I can verify that too..I am sure it won't cost more than 50 bucks there...they are not as rich as madras da...but I do believe if the movie runs for 2 weeks housefull on normal ticket rate average of Rs.30. Tamilnadu has 30 districts and each district will have atleast 20 theaters which will have Vijays movie running 3-4 shows, each theater has on an average a 200 seating capacity...So a calculation of
number of seats*number of shows*number of theaters in a district*number of districts*average price of ticket* number of days = 200*4*20*30*30*14 = 20,16,00,000..which is roughly 20 crores...so if the number of people and the number of theaters running the movie exponentially decrease after the first two weeks...say to half next week half of that next week...it would still collect around 30 crores in 4 weeks for a Vijay's movie...Baba getting sold for 100 crores is believable since even Japs have started watching it...going by US rates for movies average 6 dollars..considering that Japs also are quite film crazy...even if 20000 Japs watch it it gets 20000*6 = 120000 USD, and Baba was released in US too, I can easily say that 50000 ppl watched it in US for 10 dollars each(65000 H1 visas every year, 15000 will be Indians) I do not know about F1(say 10000 come every year) - may be more + consider the Indians accumulated over the years here already living here I do not know abt other countries...but US + Jap + international revenue for baba would have been...roughly 1 mill USD = 40 million Rs for BABA movie in International market, TN +AP dont even ask (kekavae vendaam).......Baba sold for 100 crores seems less to me...BUT YES Kumbakonam ticket is not more than Rs.30 sounds fair, Madhurai, Trichy, Coimbatore - Vijays Hub, certainly more than Rs 40 or 50.
Sandai podathinga da...(too bad its coming from me)...:)

3:06 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

vasanthi:
no offence meant at all.
i was just explaining to u the concept of a matinee idol and the function of a matinee idol in a changing society... not a word of reaction to that from you.
anyways, question: why did rajnikant stop doing the likes of moondru mugam or moondru mudichu??
cuz he became superstar and people started expecting different fare. someone earlier made a valid observation abt cinema saying a lot about the people. its true. a society only gets the cinema it deserves cuz the raw material comes from it and the buyer is also from it.
the superstar phenomenon (starting mid eighties) happened to Rajnikant in the commercial phase of his career not in the early actor phase of his career. look at the movies since raja chinna roja, rajathi raja... they are all formula...
for your kind information, almost all rajni films that released in the late eighties and nineties were six song, six dance, six fight formula films. even a psychological thriller like Manichitrathazhu had to be redone to fit the formula of song and dance and fights. cuz thats wat people expect out of a matinee idol.
Superstar proved he's an actor and went on to be superstar. vijay too has had his share of acting movies like "kathalukku mariyathai," "kannukul nilavu," "kushi" and some more mediocre movies where he did a neat acting job but the point is while rajnikant had pretty neat directors like balachander, vijay did not have any.
secondly, he became a matinee idol earlier than superstar became in his career. this guy seems to have a focus. he wants to do only superhero movies. i dont see why he shdnt cuz there are many heroes out there who can "act," very few who can be watched... no matter if the movie has a story or not, no matter if act or not, no matter what. vijay is of that mould.
unanimous disagreement ah?? im not sure if u know what unanimous means. there will always be different opinions, some educated, some ill-informed, some innocent common man observations and some just to pick a fight. clubbing all those who disagree under one banner does injustice to all of them and you. if u read the comments, u will notice many from vijay fans, some from people who have seen the movie and commented and some who think vijay haters are fools... i wud not like to club all those agreements under one banner... so lets not get to elections or trying to determine public opinion, this is not the forum for oneupmanship. this is my blog, i express my opinions here. u come here to read my opinions.
i think u're on the defensive by trying to garner support and i seem to have hurt your ego. sorry abt that, purely unintended.
all that ive said is substantiated on basis of collections, i only bothered to explain cuz u r a regular reader. if u wanna believe u know it all, who am i to change ur mind?
ignorance is bliss. be at bliss.
cheers!

3:06 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

china:
ha ha!
nee kannakku ellam podrae?
reminds me of annamalai dialogue.
"annamalai kannakku... kooti kazhchi paaru, kannakku sariya varum."
thalaivaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
anyway ive had enuff math for the day. and spent enuff time replying. gotto get working.
later man.

3:20 PM  
Blogger Sheks said...

suderman,u too vijay fan???

BTW this appeared in TH page 2,rite?informative(as i got to know superstar's original name)

4:48 PM  
Blogger Ravages said...

Sudermani, super review.
Dude, I must tahnk you. never in my proper senses would I have even decide to go to a FDFS of a Vijay pot boiler. Machaan - what a fantastic experience!

Folks out here who keep chewing on and on about Vijay not having the charisma to get the A audiences in - I am as A centre as possible. And I loved the movie. LOVED.
And as somebody mentioned here, that teakada review is by me.

I will repeat what i said in the teakada review of Sivakasi - Adrenaline and mob mentality rules and drives this film
And for now, Vijay is the only one who's able to bring in the required numbers for a mob

In case you need a little more convincing -
From Sify - Vijay’s Sivakasi, in spite of heavy rains crackled the most at the Tamilnadu box-office. It took a 100 percent opening in the first three days all over. At Kolathur Ganga theatre, a suburb of Chennai the film grossed an amazing Rs 7.26 Lakhs on Diwali day!

Read it right? 7.26 lakhs on one frigging day!
In one thetre. From a Suburb of your so called A centre

Eat > your favourite vermin here <

12:58 PM  
Blogger deliriouswithsomething said...

hey there
yes indeed, a post has vanished. The people it was talking about, and who were not supposed to read it, read it. So drastic measures were in order. Anyway, I like the new post better. It reflects my lofty, noble character better. (hah)

2:43 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

ravages:
i left a comment in ur review. You were bang on.

delirious:
noble indeed! :) he he!

5:26 PM  
Blogger Ram said...

Super star had style to cover the masses, Vijai has dance to cover them, i dont like Vijai's acting,even i feel irritated when he utters some punch dialogues, but when it comes to dance he is the King. His dance cannot be compared to Simbu(some ppl say),prabhudeva etc. bcoz simbu dance like a Veriyan, Prabhudeva is a dance master by prof. Even then he does not have the grace that Vijai has. You can see it 4 urself in many songs eg. Machan peru madurai.... Whether his films are gud or bad one thing is true "He is the King of Box Office " today as Suderman said. But he cannot dance like the same person he is in 8 or 10 yrs from now. so he must find some other means to keep his fans happy.

Ram,

9:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There can be another superstar...but its not Vijay. C'mon one of the reason for such passionate following for thalaivar is because of his background. He was a conductor, spoke kannada-marathi, was identified by KB, arrived as a villian, was only second hero is several movies, carved a niche and the rest is history and future. I wonder if this Vijay vanished for 3 years, would people of TN remember him? If my thalaivar came back and made a movie after 15 years..YES even when he is 70..and parthiban's daughter is cast as his heroine..I will take chillarai..color paper..pooshanikai and go to Udhayam.

Vijay on the other had was a Child artist...his parents are still his cover..he was alwyas breathing cinema..i think he is not even half as talented as simbu! I liked kushi--purely for entertainment..but i dont seem to enjoy any other movie of Vijay! Forget me...what abt others?

Mala

2:54 AM  
Anonymous Mala said...

There can be another superstar...but its not Vijay. C'mon one of the reason for such passionate following for thalaivar is because of his background. He was a conductor, spoke kannada-marathi, was identified by KB, arrived as a villian, was only second hero is several movies, carved a niche and the rest is history and future. I wonder if this Vijay vanished for 3 years, would people of TN remember him? If my thalaivar came back and made a movie after 15 years..YES even when he is 70..and parthiban's daughter is cast as his heroine..I will take chillarai..color paper..pooshanikai and go to Udhayam.

Vijay on the other had was a Child artist...his parents are still his cover..he was alwyas breathing cinema..i think he is not even half as talented as simbu! I liked kushi--purely for entertainment..but i dont seem to enjoy any other movie of Vijay! Forget me...what abt others?

Mala

2:55 AM  
Blogger Suderman said...

mala:
ur arguments seemed to have a tinge of sanity till u mentioned simbu.
hence, completely ignored.
:)
u can believe what u want.

8:32 PM  
Blogger cellvi said...

A Crap review for a totally crap film.

6:24 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

cellvi:
Only crap-eating people spend time reading "crap" reviews after assuming its a crap film. and then type a crappy comment after doing a crappy word verification.
And you dont become a legitimate blogger by creating an account alone, you're still among the scums of blogosphere: the anonymous sons of anonymous fathers. or sons pretending to be daughters. methinks you got GID. word verification for you: biatch....

7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Vikram did that in Dhil, Dhool and Saamy, his biggest hits till date. But wisely, knowing that age was not on his side, he moulded himself into a Kamal Hassan instead of Superstar." but in Saamy vikram had style, and that movie was a hit. In gemini he had sytle, that also was a hit. vikram can do both kamal and rajini's movie. thats what u call an actor. but no one can except vijay doin movies like kamal. vikram an do both type of movies.

4:17 AM  
Blogger Suderman said...

anon:
when u do both, u break audience expectations, u fail to remain superhero.
so the way the industry works, u better have focus. be known as superhero or an actor. vikram chose to be actor.
so he and his fans now cannot crib why a vijay movie does more business.

4:28 PM  
Blogger Suderman said...

sai, sangeetha and raj:
ur comments all in a span of five minutes... that too from the same IP.
so just put them where invalid comments they belong: trash.
u cudve posted under the same name and i mite have even replied. i hate liars.

12:39 AM  
Blogger siva said...

For all Vijay Fans/ Haters,

Sivakasi is the only Super-Hit this deepavali season, other flopped including haevily publicised Mazaa..
All reviewers have been lavishing praises on Vijay and his incredible screen presence made Sivakasi a bumper hit, he takes the cake, cream, cherry and even the chip on Sivakasi, no one apart from Rajni and Vijay could have made this wafer-line story a huge hit...

Sivakasi has beaten records of Tirupachi (No.2 in all time BO), Ghilli (No.3 in all time BO), has some said...

His salary is 7 crores now (thatstamil.com)

2nd highest paid in TN and 3rd in India
1st of course Thalaivar
2nd is Chiranjeevi the old chap

AM Rathnam, the biggest producer in south never produced a movie with a same hero for more than a movie (Ex- Ravikrishna)
But he made 3 movies with Vijay all three have been record-breakers..

People calling Vijay remakes Telugu hear this...
Jr.NTR,a big time hero in telugu has been pressuring AM Rathnam to remake Sivakasi in Telugu as his last 4 movies have been duds..

Chiranjeevi's brother Pawan Kalyan has asked RB Choudary to remake Tirupachi in telugu despite Tirupachi itself rehash version of Arjun..

Nitin, leading youth hero currently doing Sachein remake with Genelia, and Hrisitha Bhatt..

1:15 PM  
Anonymous Nesh said...

what was rajini doin when he was 31 yrs old? I think vijay is doin betta than him at 31 yrs old...how can u compare a old man( young in spirit of cos!) who has a hell lot of exp with vijay who has jus started to prove himself...bt it is a known fact that at the current rate...vijay will be the next superstar...excuse me, rajini didnt copyright the superstar title...there is always a room for another actor to come in...and vijay is the actor whether u like it or nt...cuz its not bout whether ur like it or nt...its about the masses...


of coz, thats doesnt mean im nt rajini fan...he is the great one...that doesnt mean that a 'greater one' cannot rise...

Sivakasi rocks!

3:48 PM  
Anonymous theresawindowinmyroom said...

Mams, din see much of the movie. OC-ley konjam konjam paathen. Sathyamaa thaangaley (esp the gyan session to the lady inspector). And in the scene in which Perarasu tries to leave a mark - sathyamaa deadly. Felt like pincing him sooo hard that he cries!!! But tell you what, Vijay is def watchable. And i also know that thats no reflection on the movie per se.
and thats all i gotta say
Cheers

PS: Kutti fav. Can someone tell me what the word veification is for. I seriously dunno

11:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone READ THIS!

As per box office collections vijay has proven to be the highest in the younger generation. What you need to look at is TIRUPACHI, SACHIEN AND SIVAKASI put together did not make as much money as chandramukhi made in 200 days. Chandramukhi has crossed 95 crores and still running successfully to 300 day mark, will might even touch 350 day mark. Rajini gives 1 movies per year or two but when his movie is released, you know his power, people run to theaters from all over the place. There is not a single chance vijay can beat RAJINI but still vijay is definetely number 2. Not with his acting but with his style and dance. Just wait till Rajini's next film SIVAJI comes out then all of you will be standing with your mouths open. If a vijay film gets released with rajini's film then see the difference in both collections and the audience.

6:24 AM  
Blogger Suderman said...

sivaji will surely be his biggest hit. no doubt abt it at all.
and no one compared vijay to superstar...
the max we got to was predicting, that he's the man who will be king.
in ur enthusiasm to comment, u just skipped reading the post.

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't skip reading the post, as I was reading I read a lot of posts comparing vijay with rajini. I was saying that vijay is a great great star but he's not to the extend of rajini. Vijay's movies seem to only become a hit if they are masala films, because look tirupachi gilli, madurey all good hits and sachien flopped because he did different role. If vijay tries some different role or get-up he fails. This includes his older movies like bagavathy, geethai, thamizhan etc. I'm worried that the same thing will happen to aadhi as well because it looks like vijay isn't giving a masala flick this time. Also I read some rumours on the net saying that vijay's puli could be released with rajini's sivaji if the dates turn out right.

6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://jupieee.blogspot.com/2005/01/vijay-movies-analysis.html#comments

6:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not sure if you will even see the commment as I read the blog pretty late.

First, let us make something clear
1. Thalaivar can act - infact thats what attracted people to him(villian) in the first place.
2. Even though his movies are called masala - when I actually look at it they do have very interesting story lines - even though it is mostly about underdogs who win, let us look at it
padiyappa, muthu, annamalai and if you look at his old flicks during the late 80's they were all different story(engaya ketta koral, mappilai) lines with added masala, amma thatha patti sentiment, fight scenes great comedy....
3. His movies were liked by A,B & C - Critical point for a superstar!!!!!!!!!

The third point is totally absent with vijay whose movies mainly run in B&C which vijaykanth movies did too[actually even ramarajan movies did:) but I would like to give much more credit to vijay]

So I think the right place for vijay is along with vijaykanth who is puratchi thalaivar alright but not a superstar.

Personally, I do feel some raw magnetism with Vikram - that slight confidence slight arrogance in front of camera which I saw in thalaivar's thambiku enthu oru. Sami could not have been done by anybody else apart from Vikram - can you imagine vijay doing a sami....

From neither a thalaivar nor vijay nor vikram fan...
an aamir khan fan:)
Ps: frankly I hate that mcp'ness in thalaivar's movie that persists in all the tamil movies till date can't believe that:)

2:09 PM  
Blogger manju said...

Not Vijay nor Ajith will be the next superstar. The kind of movies they are working on, am sure they will be nowhere on the race. I bet on Surya and Vikram for the next gen superstars. They have it in them.

4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After Sivakasi .. the SO CALLLED PRINCE was Royally screwed by AADHI

RED CARD from distributors ...

Yes man any half boiled man can say any HALF boiled monkey as super star ....it is not going to cost anyways ...

keep Shouting

2:18 PM  
Blogger Kamal said...

Vijay : The King of REMAKE...

Ajith : Currently Ultimate Star--->Next Super STAR

8:20 AM  
Blogger Nivi said...

Sad that a guy like you who is a movie buff and an appreciator for good movies has to think like that.

In a way, this review of yours brought you down in my eyes as a good movie critic cause any guy who honestly thinks Vijay can become the next superstar is outof his wits and thus loses all credibility to ever be a movie critic.

Honestly if superstar is where he is today its because he acted in a horde of movies where he showcased that he is capable of acting.

Whereas this self probclaimed superstar wanna be cant act for nuts, can dance and has a good timing, i am sorry that does not make him superstar material. If you think so, your opinion , then you either do no understand the reason for superstar success or simply cannot appreciate good movies.

I do not have a problem with Vijay as an actor. He can keep making his trashy movies, he is going to have an audience just like how simbu has one and TR has one, like even sam anderson has one. I have a problem with unashamedly copying rajini and using that for success. No its not smart, its cheap. It shows what attitude he has.And that is a problem every tamilian has.

Please ask Vijay to get a life and more get a brain of his own and make good movies. Superstardom will follow.

As for other true superstar fans, please dont call yourself one if you think Vijay has even half the class or style Vijay has.

12:21 AM  

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